Competition Bands, How We Get Judged

A Brief History of Long Island Competitive Marching Bands
There are approximately fifteen bands that compete on Long Island. Roslyn is the most recent addition to this group (it's our 7th season). The other fourteen have been in this competition circuit for 20 to 40 years. Competitive bands can perform 30 to 60 forms (this year we have 61, up from 32 last year), are constantly moving, with memorized music (no lyres), and march in synchronized perfection (or as close as is possible). The other 50 plus Long Island non-competition bands perform their shows during halftime at home football games and at the Newsday Festival. They tend to perform between 3 and 15 pictures (abstract forms) and do a much less complex show.

There are several competitive circuits in our area. There is the MAC circuit, in Conncecticut and northern New England, the TOB (Tournament of Bands) circuit in New Jersey and Pennsylvania, the YEA circuit, which encompasses the entire East Coast, and the NYSFBC (New York State Field Band Conference) which we compete in. The Long Island bands always seem to compete together. In the 80s and early 90s the Long Island bands competed in the Tournament of Bands. The Championships were usually in Scranton, PA. Then in the mid 90's the bands switched to a new circuit, the CMBC (Cadets Marching Band Circuit) which was run by the Bergen County Cadets, one of the top Drum Corps in the world. The draw of this circuit was it's Championships at Giant's Stadium. When the Giant's put in real turf the CMBC was no longer able to use the stadium, they changed their name to YEA, and moved the championships to venues in Atlantic City, Hersheypark, and Scranton. It was about this time that the Long Island Bands started to transfer to the NYSFBC, the draw to this conference mainly being the Carrier Dome championships, which is obviously indoors, and an incredible venue. The NYSFBC is also a band director driven group, which I feel is the best of the circuits in terms of it's positive outlook and emphasis on education. By the end of the 90's almost all of the Long Island Competitive bands competed in the Carrier Dome/NYSFBC. A few of the Long Island bands still compete in the YEA, there was a show run by the YEA in Hicksville last week, and the "New York State Championships" run by YEA which we competed in last year. We were in group 5a and won the "State Championship" since they determine their classes totally by size of band, not school size, and we were the only band in our class.

Each circuit has a totally different way of judging, different criteria, different judges, and different philosophies. I will now go over the NYSFBC judging system as best I can in a few paragraphs.

NYSFBC Band Classes
There are two main criteria for determining classes in the NYSFBC. There are Small School Classes (SS3, SS2, and SS1) which are determined by school size and the quality level of the program. There are the Large School Classes (LS3, LS2). Class 3 are the less advanced bands, Class 2 the more advanced bands, and Class 1 the most advanced. The top class, reserved for the best in the country is the National Class which consists of incredible bands of any school size. Since they are determined by school size, there can be tiny bands and huge bands in the same class in the NYSFBC. For instance, Northwestern, who won SS2 for several years, marched around 40 members. Some bands have only the really serious musicians and guard people in their bands, which makes them smaller and easier to make perfect. My goal as a band director has been to get as many people involved in the program as possible. In our conference, you get a bump in General Effect from being big but that's about all. In the YEA conference, the larger the bands, the bigger the class, and the higher the scores; they reward you for being bigger and feel that the General Effect of a larger group gives you a higher score.

NYSFBC Judging / How We Get Judged
In the NYSFBC there are two large areas that we are judged on, Visual and Music. Each of these two areas are broken down into three segments, Field, Ensemble, and General Effect. So here are the six judges that judge us: Field Visual, Ensemble Visual, GE Visual, Field Music, Ensemble Music, and GE Music.

Field Visual: This judge is on the field, walking around, through, and in front of the band. This judge's job is to evaluate the individuals on the field and how they march, do their guard work, and how they look as individuals.

Ensemble Visual: This judge is up in the stands and evaluates the drill, the band and the guard doing their designs and work as an ensemble, the artistic value of the show.

GE Visual: This judge sits up in the stands and judges the "General Effect" of the visual portion of the band and guard. This is usually what the audience responds to, the GE.

Field Music: This judge is on the field, walking around, through, and in front of the band. This judge's job is to evaluate the individuals musicians on how they are playing their parts.

Ensemble Music: This judge is up in the stands and evaluates how the band performs their music as an ensemble. This judge evaluates the difficulty of the show, how clean the band is playing musically, and how they sound.

GE Music: This judge sits up in the stands and judges the "General Effect" of the music. This is usually what the audience responds to, the GE.


Subjective Judging
The judges are supposed to judge their caption without going "out of caption." Sometimes they don't do this. Sometimes the visual judges only judge the guard without even looking at the band. This puts a band that marches a difficult show well at a disadvantage because they get no credit for their work. Sometimes the music judges also decide to judge the visual, which dimishes a band's music score since it isn't being judged. When a music judge does this and is not impressed with the visual aspect, a band in essence is "penalized" twice for the visual portion of the show. Actually, the band is penalized a third time since there is no credit given from that judge for the music they are doing. As staff members we try to be subjective, but still are scratching our heads as we leave some of the contests because the numbers don't even seem to line up with the taped critiques. Oh yes, each judge makes a tape critiquing the band. We get these tapes immediately after we perform and go to the staff room to listen to the tapes and prepare for the post contest judges meeting, where we get 5 minutes with each judging group (visual and music) to get an in person evaluation from the judges.

You need to know, when you get involved in this activity, that it is a "subjective judging" environment. These scores are entirely determined by the judges' evaluations using the judges sheets. The judges decide absolutely everything. It is very much like figure skating or judged olympic events. They make the call for everything. One or two judges can bury you, giving you a score so low that it moves you out of contention for winning a contest. This has happened to us at all three contests this year. We may not agree with the judges, but complaining will not solve anything since we realize that this is a "subjective" environment. It comes with the territory. Those same judges could have had us up by points, giving us a large lead over all the other bands.

What the audience usually responds to is "general effect". It only accounts for about 40% of the score and that is why people don't always agree with the judges' results.

Many marching band people say that the only way you can tell who is the best is to wait until the dome. That is where all the bands in the class perform at the same time, for the same judges, in the same environment. At the dome the judging slates are doubled, so the scores are derived from 12 judges. Anything can happen at championships.

Keep It All In Perspective
Our band is doing great and we know it. We grasp how incredibly better we are getting each year. The judges scores don't always reflect this. We must realize that at all times and feel great from within, regardless of what the score is. However, it is still "fun to win." Hopefully, the judges will begin to notice what we have become, how much stronger we are, how difficult our music and visual program is, and reward it.

Brentwood Show Recap

Great job today! You know how you did! You were on, big time! Everyone in that stadium knows how you did, everyone! You took a major step in reaching the Dynasty level! Unfortunately, the judges didn’t agree. They will, give them time!  And we are definitely gaining ground.  The Field music judge had us 3rd in the entire show, and the Ensemble Music judge had us up.  The GE Music had us down and the GE Visual judge pounded us. Seems the GE Visual and Ensemble Visual just didn't like our show today. We will win them over.  

One of Martin Luther King, Jr.’s famous quotes is important when we deal with the subjectivity of judging. “The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy.”  This is definitely a time of challenge for our band.  We know how we are doing on that field, how much better we are getting, yet the scores are not yet reflecting our progress.

Building a dynasty is very difficult. We are clearly accomplishing our goals. Along the way there are speed bumps. Today was another one of those. Whatever the reason, we are getting lower scores than we deserve. Perhaps there is something in our show that the judges simply don't like. Perhaps we are totally doing a great job and for whatever reasons, the numbers aren’t reflecting it. We have very difficult, multi meter music, demanding drill moves, and are moving constantly, accomplishing 63 sets in this show instead of our 30 sets of previous years. Our sound is better, in fact it is great! Our marching is better than ever, we have technique like never before. The guard is the best Roslyn has put on the field, they were amazing today. We designed this show to win the class. It is a challenging show. Perhaps we just haven’t peaked yet. Perhaps we are a few inches from the gold in our marching band gold mine, and have to dig for another week or two to reach it. We have important rehearsals left and another month to go. We need to focus and get the most out of ourselves. We just need to max out our precision so that the judges see us for what we are, an incredible, championship band. Remember, the marching band season is a marathon which doesn’t end until the dome. In 2006 we were dumped all season, in last place in the state rankings, only to focus and win 2nd place out of 12 at the championship! Stay focused! Stay the course!

Those speed bumps in life define us. How we handle things that come at us defines us. It is easy to be great when things are amazing. How we handle adversity defines us.

It IS defining us, our amazing resiliency and positive attitude in the face of these scores. I am so proud of our entire band, parents and community. Our positive attitude is unwavering and feeds each of us to work harder and persevere! Our hard work will pay off! Stay the course!

Here is one of my favorite quotes. Nobody knows who said this quote, but it is perfect with dealing with today’s result.

“Our lives are not determined by what happens to us but by how we react to what happens, not by what life brings to us, but by the attitude we bring to life. A positive attitude causes a chain reaction of positive thoughts, events, and outcomes. It is a catalyst, a spark that creates extraordinary results.”

We have a “positive attitude.” Let’s face it, we define it. Our results are “extraordinary.” We are the talk of the Island, the talk of Roslyn, and soon the talk of the state! Really, we are being noticed, that's for sure! Look at how far we have come in the past few years. We are making big waves in this activity. We love what we do and are great at it! Don’t let 6 people’s decision about what we deserve influence our self-esteem and confidence. Soon, the judges will see the light. Tomorrow they will crown us champions. Remember, "Aim high, be patient."